Republicans have holds Senate, House, White House, Supreme Court and States, they've been ranting against Obamacare since Obama got i passed (an even before), they tried to repeal it o numerous occasions while Obama was in office, they promised that once they will be in office, Obamlacare would be gone, Trump beven said he would repeal it on day 1. Ad now Republicans ghold the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Courty and most of the sates, they can't get along and come up with a suibstitution bill that they would agree on ?! And then you guys have the guts to call that "winning" ?
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The truth is GOP donors such as the koch bros wanted a way more harsh bill but some GOP senatours realised that most of their voters did like ObamaCare and they didn't wanted to be called out when these voters would realised that becvause of them they lost their healthcare coverage
Trump won because, unlike previous other gop candidates, unlike Mitt Romney, he ran a populous campaign, he talked t the people instead of the donors. But this is not how republicans use to do politics, theu use to take campaign financing froml big donors and then do their biddigs (just like establishment democrats, just not the same donors).
So in the end, this was a match between Trump and the Koch Bros and it ended in a a draw. But most of the american people don't know the koch bros were in that game, so to most american people, Trump's got tackled, 5 yards from the touchdown, by one of his team-members
If you are going to be stupid, please break it up so there isn't so much stupid to try and sort out in one post.
First, let's establish one thing..
You don't know one thing about how the American legislative process works.
I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, even through all of the spelling errors and since English isn't your first language, we cut you some slack because you seem eager to learn.
You look at the parties very simplistically, it's almost scary as to how you view Democrats and Republicans.
The GOP is fractured. If you don't understand that then there is no sense in reading beyond this.
60 percent of the GOP is made up of people whose philosophy would be considered a Democrat 25 years ago.
Don't believe me?
Look at Bill Clinton's State of the union speech in 1994.
Now we are left with 35-40 percent remaining of constitutional conservatives, staunch originalists, small government, types.
They have never been in the majority in congress, let me emphasize this..never ever have constitutional conservatives controlled any majority in congress that means the house or Senate.
So you can beat your chest and taunt about the bill failing, but constitutional conservatives were on your side but for completely different reasons.
Paul Ryan is a globalist corporatist liberal Republican, I still chuckle when a certain poster here claimed that he didn't vote for Romney because Ryan was too conservative for him. I should have stopped taking him seriously after that but I didn't listen to my better judgement.
He created a bill that was essentially took away the mandate for having insurance but left the burden on insurance companies to provide coverage for preexisting conditions and for adult children.
A recipe for disaster, but this time they assume Obamacare, sign off on it and allow it to be their baby. Letting Democrats off of the hook.
It is like assuming the mortgage on beach front property that is in the process of falling into the sea.
The Democrats however, are united. Their philosophy of big government, open borders is shared throughout the party. In fact I would doubt if 10 percent of the democrat party didn't agree with the liberals-socialists.
So in 2010, you had a united party, creating a bill as opposed to 2017 a fractured party where the liberal/moderate wing and leadership creates a bill.
That's why it didn't pass.
You had several self appointed experts on this thread saying it would pass when it wouldn't.
You had some dancing on the graves of Republicans for passing it before they passed it only look like fools and being reduced to posting photos to troll because they don't have anything substantive to add or are too dense to understand the complex nuances of the GOP.
What will happen next and I believe it will be before Easter is that there will be a new speaker and new house leadership.
Then a new bill that is a real repeal of Obamacare will be offered and it will be successful.
Trump's agenda is not conducive to working with liberal Republicans like Ryan.
Once he is gone, and Gorsuch is seated, it is full steam ahead.
My accuracy is better than most here.
So I am confident I will be proven correct again.
